---
title: "Episode #4"
description: "It's out and it's stout. Actually, I don't know if it's stout or not. I just like to rhyme (all the time). My 3 Fav Quotes “What if instead of discounts, we…"
url: "https://www.johnnunemaker.com/episode-4/"
author: "John Nunemaker"
published: "2025-01-09"
updated: "2025-01-09"
tags: ["podcast"]
---

# Episode #4

It's out and it's stout. Actually, I don't know if it's stout or not. I just like to rhyme (all the time).

## My 3 Fav Quotes

“What if instead of discounts, we focused on lowering the risk for customers to try podcasting?” – Garrett

“You don't have to go crazy and work a ton. You can you can achieve great success by turning a few levers. But sometimes it just takes a lot of work to figure out what those levers are.” – John

"I'm just thinking about swag, but that's a discussion from another day." – Kris

<a class="bookmark" href="https://blog.fireside.fm/black-friday-reflections-and-new-year-opportunities/"><span class="bookmark-title">Black Friday Reflections and New Year Opportunities</span><span class="bookmark-description">I was hoping to get this out last year, but holidays got in the way of that (in a good way). So here is the last episode recorded in 2024, fresh for you to enjoy in 2025. * Black Friday Reflections and Trends * Rethinking Sales Strategies for Software * Technical Upgrades and</span><span class="bookmark-domain">blog.fireside.fm</span></a>

Big shoutout to [Riverside](https://riverside.fm). We use them to record and edit this. And I've found it pretty fun the past couple times.